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posted by potpotato 317 days ago

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One of the world’s most respected scientists is embroiled in an extraordinary row after claiming that black people are less intelligent than white people.

James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in discovering the structure of DNA, has provoked outrage with his comments, made ahead of his arrival in Britain today.

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The 79-year-old geneticist said he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really.". He said he hoped that everyone was equal, but countered that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”.

He says that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because “there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level”. He writes that “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece

Any comments, folks?


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posted by Killer Tomato 317 days ago (edited 317 days ago)
yes they forgot to put potpotato's on the list of less intelligent people! now bugger off!@

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posted by green tea 317 days ago
I moment I saw the heading in Home page, I knew the thread is from TB..oops.. sorry.... Potpotato! And I was right!!

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posted by SCHippie2 317 days ago
I think there are only two comments that I would like to make about this post.

1. Even though he is a scientist, he is 79, and obviously off his rocker a bit to expect anyone to take him serious other than racist WASPS.

2. There are multiple types of intelligence with various definitions across the multicultural global spectrum. That means that the term "intelligent" is very vague and chock full of cultural biases. If I am not mistaken, isn't it the responsibility of scientists to provide sound, "beyond a shadow of a doubt" evidence for their logic/reasoning behind their theories and hyptheses? What kind of individual expects anyone to take them seriously whilst making such broad and sweeping assumptions, unless they are suffering from alzheimers so severly that they forgot that it's no longer acceptable to make such comments?

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posted by smog 317 days ago
SCHippie2,

Just out of curiosity, what sort of evidence would you accept for this claim?

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posted by potpotato 317 days ago
I don't think what James Watson says should be dismissed as hogwash.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_D._Watson


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posted by Killer Tomato 317 days ago
quote:
Originally posted by potpotato
I don't think


Exactly! now since we have that established, lets go and make this site a bit better, and let potpotato go up in thin air.


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posted by Claire 317 days ago


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posted by CK2 317 days ago
there are some amusing comments from someone from HK (now which one of you bastards is it?)

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Perhaps you are also aware of Religous Intelligent Theory (RIT) that Muslims are less intelligent than Christians. irrespective of skin color.

Another theory put forwards in the 1980´s called the Postal Code Theory (PCT) suggested that people with the "SW" postal code has the highest intelligence in the UK, although they also had the lowest libedo, resulting in higher house prices in the SW area due to continual influx of highly intelligent people.

The point I am making here is that all theories have their inherent value, but should not be used in indiscrimate generalisatins. Dr. Watson´s theory may prove to be correct but should not be taken out of context, especially when one considers the fact that most African´s are not actually aware of his theory and therefore can not be tested on it and therefore the theory can not actually be used to prove itself incorrect.

Fred Smith, Hong Kong, Hong Kong





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posted by potpotato 317 days ago
I think there's much to be said for the Religious Intelligent Theory.


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posted by Lola 317 days ago

Bog off now, there's a good Trollface.

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posted by keymaker 317 days ago
quote:
Originally posted by potpotato
I don't think what James Watson says should be dismissed as hogwash.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_D._Watson


Someone famous said it, therefore it most be true.

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posted by tiger lily 316 days ago
If this finding is based on the scientific discovery , I won’t look at it as a racist comment.
It is same as identifying a person with ADHD , it is not meant to be intellectually prejudice.
I can accept the fact that people are born unequal, and so it should be. Without practicing give and take , acceptance, charity and love and the rest….. human race is left without stimulation and growth.

It is all in the brain and it’s chemistry that determine an individual’s abilities and disabilities. The finding has no link with human rights so far, it is just a finding or hypothesis.

Again survival is not all about who has the higher IQ. There are qualities that Blacks have differently from Whites. Again I don’t intend to stereotype , Black people seem more lay back, possibly has something to do with their higher libidos .

I, rather not looking for Equality in people and find Diversity interesting and meaningful. .



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posted by ubemochi 316 days ago
There is no general consensus as to what "intelligence" really means.
Maybe James Watson should clarify his notion of intelligence first...or maybe just shut up and do some gardening.
I spent some time in Africa and with Africans students in London. It never occured to me that they might be less intelligent than Europeans. Different, yes, but diversity is something I regard as positive....otherwise i wouldn't be living in HK!


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posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 316 days ago
Well, he can't prove he's right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper#Philosophy_of_Science

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