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| posted by puyi 275 days ago |
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History is written by the victors.....well the oppressors to be more truthful
darren rudd is and never was a sinophile
but the reports were a smoggy mistake
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| posted by Load Toad 275 days ago |
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That's a bit old and with a lot of revisionist history now available I don't think as relevant as it once was. It's a lazy quote.
He does say 'I love the thought of coming over you'.
'Coming home to...'
'Oh - that's kind of killed the song for me'.
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| posted by puyi 275 days ago |
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how can it be lazy ? some people choose their revisionist views but also write from a position of new victory
darren rudd is and never was a sinophile
but the reports were a smoggy mistake
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| posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 275 days ago (edited 275 days ago) |
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Thanks for the opium.
No problem - our pleasure - well - no one forced anyone to smoke it!
I agree. Just like Hitler didn't force anyone to be Jewish either.
Oh dear Gimpy. You have invoked Godwin's Law, and I fear have undermined your argument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
Watchu talkin' about Willis?
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| posted by Load Toad 275 days ago |
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some people choose their revisionist views but also write from a position of new victory
I'm sorry I just don't understand that. Obviously any writer has a point of you - but if you look at say Christopher Bayly & Tim Harpers works on Asia during and after the war or James Barr on the Middle East there is some well written and balanced stuff available.
He does say 'I love the thought of coming over you'.
'Coming home to...'
'Oh - that's kind of killed the song for me'.
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| posted by puyi 275 days ago |
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a revision of china.............
Where’s Mao? Chinese Revise History Books
By JOSEPH KAHN
Published: September 1, 2006
BEIJING, Aug. 31 — When high school students in Shanghai crack their history textbooks this fall they may be in for a surprise. The new standard world history text drops wars, dynasties and Communist revolutions in favor of colorful tutorials on economics, technology, social customs and globalization.
Socialism has been reduced to a single, short chapter in the senior high school history course. Chinese Communism before the economic reform that began in 1979 is covered in a sentence. The text mentions Mao only once — in a chapter on etiquette.
Nearly overnight the country’s most prosperous schools have shelved the Marxist template that had dominated standard history texts since the 1950’s. The changes passed high-level scrutiny, the authors say, and are part of a broader effort to promote a more stable, less violent view of Chinese history that serves today’s economic and political goals.
Supporters say the overhaul enlivens mandatory history courses for junior and senior high school students and better prepares them for life in the real world. The old textbooks, not unlike the ruling Communist Party, changed relatively little in the last quarter-century of market-oriented economic reforms. They were glaringly out of sync with realities students face outside the classroom. But critics say the textbooks trade one political agenda for another.
They do not so much rewrite history as diminish it. The one-party state, having largely abandoned its official ideology, prefers people to think more about the future than the past.
The new text focuses on ideas and buzzwords that dominate the state-run media and official discourse: economic growth, innovation, foreign trade, political stability, respect for diverse cultures and social harmony.
But by the simple gloss over (revision) of Mao and the excess of communism and the recent revision of the Cultural Revolution the country sells its students short of truth whilst pushing anti Japanese sentiments by revisiting the war...........
The new china revision is driven by lets make money money....so the victors are now the businessmen ( new oppressors)
darren rudd is and never was a sinophile
but the reports were a smoggy mistake
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| posted by Load Toad 275 days ago |
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And it was fascism not communism ultimately anyway...
He does say 'I love the thought of coming over you'.
'Coming home to...'
'Oh - that's kind of killed the song for me'.
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| posted by bunthorne 275 days ago |
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It usually is.
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| posted by Gimpmask 274 days ago |
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Originally posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant
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Originally posted by Gimpmask
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Originally posted by Load Toad
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Thanks for the opium.
No problem - our pleasure - well - no one forced anyone to smoke it!
I agree. Just like Hitler didn't force anyone to be Jewish either.
Oh dear Gimpy. You have invoked Godwin's Law, and I fear have undermined your argument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
Yeah, didn't know how to deal with the "No one forced them to do it" argument. Or do they have a special name for that too?
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| posted by Patrick Bateman 274 days ago |
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can't we burn these people at the stake like the good old days?
Sabrina, don't just stare at it. Eat it.
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| posted by Juno Watt 274 days ago |
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Originally posted by Gimpmask
Indeed. Thanks for the opium.
There was once a man who owned all the opium in Hong Kong...
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