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| posted by AKA 219 days ago |
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expats are full of s**t, generally
locals are just more honest about it
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| posted by migao 219 days ago |
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No, those were locals.
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| posted by Bucky 219 days ago |
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Originally posted by AKA
expats are full of s**t, generally
locals are just more honest about it
Honest about their callousness and complete disregard for the welfare of others? Can you really call that 'honesty'?
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| posted by hkJay 219 days ago |
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Originally posted by Beer Boy
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BB - I'm f'kin cold today - never mind the locals...
that ain't me fella.... check his name again!!!
Duly noted, duly edited - I was a bit of a beer 'something' last night - brains still not fully functioning - - -
to be, or not to be, what was the question?
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| posted by hkJay 219 days ago |
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I read in a book on China that by helping someone and possibly saving their life, you become 'responsible' for them in some way. Or they owe you an unpayable debt of gratitude. It didn't make much sense. Just seems callous not to help when it costs you so little.
I think this applies to situations such as when you run 'em over in yer motor...
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| posted by sunwaterandsky 219 days ago |
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Well done HKJay. In big cities people don't always want to take the risk of helping a stranger. Maybe one of those people that watched you will now feel embarassed and be more likely to help in the future.
I have found local people to be helpful on many occasions - pointing out that my bag was open on the MTR, picking up my I-Pod and returning it when i didn't even know I dropped it, and so on. I have also found that, when attempting to help, my attempts have not always been appreciated. I think there is a stooped over little rubbish lady who still has nightmares of the big gwei Po who chased her down the street to give her the $20 she dropped!
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| posted by hkJay 219 days ago |
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Cheers Sunwaterandsky - -
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| posted by Gimpmask 219 days ago |
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Scams like whilst you help someone, the accomplice comes and steals your stuff or stunts by Jeremy Beadle don't really encourage folks to be kindhearted.
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| posted by AKA 219 days ago |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by AKA
expats are full of s**t, generally
locals are just more honest about it
Honest about their callousness and complete disregard for the welfare of others? Can you really call that 'honesty'?
yes. yes I can
locals are no more callous than inhabitants of other big cities (London, anyone?)
expats are so worthy, wring thier hands, why oh why oh why etc
but expats are nicer to their maids, tip the taxi driver etc so it is okay to look down their noses at those cruel, untamed savage locals
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| posted by AKA 219 days ago |
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This thread title reminds me of the Smiths
Kindness on the streets of Hong Kong, kindness on the streets of Pok Fun Lam?
I wonder to myself...
Hang the blessed HKJay!
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| posted by hkJay 219 days ago |
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[i]Hang the blessed HKJay!
don't go making martyrs duke...
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| posted by hkJay 219 days ago |
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The Smiths - - - Morrissey - - - I particularly loathe Morrissey
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| posted by Bucky 219 days ago |
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quote:
Originally posted by AKA
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by AKA
expats are full of s**t, generally
locals are just more honest about it
Honest about their callousness and complete disregard for the welfare of others? Can you really call that 'honesty'?
yes. yes I can
locals are no more callous than inhabitants of other big cities (London, anyone?)
expats are so worthy, wring thier hands, why oh why oh why etc
but expats are nicer to their maids, tip the taxi driver etc so it is okay to look down their noses at those cruel, untamed savage locals
Chip on your shoulder?
And I do think locals are more callous than inhabitants of other big cities (London, etc). Frankly, I've seen more inhumane and cold behaviour here in 3 years than I saw in London in 15.
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| posted by bunthorne 219 days ago |
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Maybe in London you just 'didn't see' what was going on around you.
There are plenty of evil bastards there. Just you were privileged not to meet them.
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| posted by geraldo 219 days ago |
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jay you pushed him first, did you ?
There are 10 kinds of people. Those who can read binary and those who don't
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| posted by hkJay 219 days ago |
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OK Geraldo - so it was a social experiment........I wanted to see what type of reaction I'd get from the crowd...
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| posted by The Crone 219 days ago |
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The other day I saw a man (my age) who had sat down and there was a puddle round his crotch , on the pavement. There was another man talking to him in a dialect that I don't know. I walked away. I felt real bad. But then I thought, he has someone who speaks his language...the side walk cafe is just 50 paces away, there are lots of people walking by ..and I left it at that.
Today as I tried to make my way to the door in the MTR, there was an old woman, who just wouldn't budge no matter how many times I said 'mm goi, excuse me', so I gave her a push, and I felt quite good Yes, I felt good because I was thinking of all the children I teach who just don't budge when you say 'excuse me' no matter waht language, because they were never taught. Because so many HK folks are so f**king rude. Their parents never tell them to move for others. Every day I get pushed, squished, bodies slamming right into me. f**k, my blood boils just thinking about it. I always tell kids that no matter how f**king successful they are, how good their English is, if they are rude, they are learning nothing.
I dream again
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| posted by mr scott 219 days ago |
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there was an old woman, who just wouldn't budge no matter how many times I said 'mm goi, excuse me', so I gave her a push
Taste of her own medicine probably. The old women seem to shoulder barge people out of the way on the MTR.
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| posted by geraldo 219 days ago |
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I love bodies slamming into me
just not on the mtr
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| posted by beebs 218 days ago |
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A few years ago, as I was about to leave an MTR station, I saw this woman stop just as she reached the steps leading out of the MTR station. She had a pushchair with a kid in it, so I offered to help her carry her pushchair up the stairs, with her holding one end of the pushchair and me the other. She looked at me in horror and weakly declined my offer. I duly went up the steps on my own and once at the top, I turned and watched as she struggled slowly up the steps with her bags, the pushchair and the kid as well and all in the height of summer. Couldn't understand why she didn't want help from a stranger when she really did need help but someone later suggested that perhaps she was scared that I'd hurt her or the baby. Hardly possible given the fact that she was holding onto the handle side and I, myself was carrying bags of shopping too.
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Originally posted by The Crone
I always tell kids that no matter how f**king successful they are, how good their English is, if they are rude, they are learning nothing.
And they're going to amount to little nobodies. Although I do omit the swearing in the presence of my charges 
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