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| posted by HKBloke 55 days ago |
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Of course they will - so don't tell them. Just don't pay the rent for the last 2 months - then the onus is on them to get the money out of you versus the onus being on you to get your deposit back from them.
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| posted by Paps of Jura 55 days ago |
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It happens all the time in this town.. ... they are known for coming up with any excuse to not give it back... spent on the horses the day you handed it over no doubt !
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| posted by Load Toad 55 days ago |
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Indeed - my previous landlady wouldn't return the deposit and we had to arrange a meeting with the small claims court - in the end they settled up before the date but it was a pain in the arse.
So this landlord isn't getting any rent for the last two months.
You used to speak the truth.
But now you're clever.
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| posted by AKA 55 days ago |
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Originally posted by Juno Watt
My rent has doubled.
What did I do to deserve this?
you need to worry when your landlord says: I love you, you pay me rent
yeah, yeah, yeah
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| posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 55 days ago |
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Please elaborate, Giant... You have me fearing now, too.
Just that landlords are a bunch of bastards, and they seem to regard the deposit money as their own as soon as it's in their grubby little hands. Use your deposit in lieu of the last two months rent if you can.
"If you can"... that means just not paying rent for next two months without clearing it with them first? I'm pretty sure if I ask if it's okay to use deposit in lieu of rent, they'll say no cos they'll probably come up with bogus "repairs" etc to dock out of my deposit.
Yes, exactly. Don't pay any more rent, don't clear it with them, just do it.
Watchu talkin' about Willis?
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| posted by smog 55 days ago (edited 55 days ago) |
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Or, alternatively, do as you would be done by.
Although, having said that, my experience is that if your landlord is a largish company (so you're dealing with an employee rather than "the owner") then there's absolutely no problem doing it by the book according to the contract.
Individual owners, especially it seems from my experience and second hand reports if they are women, are a right pain.
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| posted by Paps of Jura 55 days ago |
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Doesn't work that way here tho Smog.. do as we would do by is giving back the deposit to the tennant after they have moved out and you have checked the apartment is OK.. here they don't even come and check the apartment nor give the deposit back
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| posted by smog 55 days ago (edited 55 days ago) |
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Paps,
Not true in my experience - the last apartment I rented was owned by a company (Regent Sino Ltd - if you come across one of their properties then I'd recommend them as a landlord). I paid the rent as per the contract up to the day I left (so a partial month for the last one). We fixed a time for them to inspect and me to hand the keys back. An employee came at the appointed time, looked around, checked that the aircons basically worked. Gave me a cheque for the two months deposit in return for the keys and asked me to sign a receipt for it. Dead simple. All done in 5 minutes.
It was similar in the first apartment I had here (albeit that was a company lease by my employer). It was only the second one with a right b**ch of a landlady where there were problems.
So two out of three absolutely no problem playing by the rules. For the middle one after a somewhat stressful meeting we negotiated to a settlement that was acceptable to both.
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| posted by Juno Watt 55 days ago |
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Originally posted by AKA
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Originally posted by Juno Watt
My rent has doubled.
What did I do to deserve this?
you need to worry when your landlord says: I love you, you pay me rent
With such a high rent bill, how am I gonna get through?
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| posted by Paps of Jura 55 days ago |
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Well Smog you have had good experiences, with smaller one off owner landlords I have heard some greedy stories.. I have always just used deposit for the last months rent.. not an issue if you look after the place
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| posted by Juno Watt 55 days ago |
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I bought the flat, you signed the lease
I make lots of money
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| posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 55 days ago |
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I'm also moving soon. Has anyone ever had a problem where they'd put pictures and wall fixings up? I'm moving out soon and that's basically the only quibble my landlord might have, other than the fact that I've been in there 7 years and it's generally looking a bit tatty. I would hope the landlord would see that as fair wear and tear.
Watchu talkin' about Willis?
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| posted by Lola 55 days ago |
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I remember having a fight once with the "representative" of a landlady over a 2-ring electric cooker, which she insisted they had provided and was therefore the property of the landlady, even tho we'd bought it ourselves, even tho I showed her the receipt and even tho there was no such item listed on the freaking contract in the first place. It was one of those moments where you actually can't believe you're having that conversation because it makes no sense but you have to fight it out anyway cos they're a bunch of freaking a=holes.
Hate 'em all.
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| posted by Lola 55 days ago (edited 55 days ago) |
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Giant> You looking to stay in the same area? I'm going to have to do a trawl of the local property agents soon and the thought alone is making me lose the will to live.
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| posted by HKBloke 55 days ago |
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But don't forget the landlords still think we are all well paid expats who's companies pay for our rent so we are fair game.
Unfortunately the relative health of Asia compared to the rest of the world is only going to make matters worse.
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| posted by Paps of Jura 55 days ago |
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Originally posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant
I'm also moving soon. Has anyone ever had a problem where they'd put pictures and wall fixings up? I'm moving out soon and that's basically the only quibble my landlord might have, other than the fact that I've been in there 7 years and it's generally looking a bit tatty. I would hope the landlord would see that as fair wear and tear.
I had this issue in my first place in HK... we had put one pic up and left the hole when we left ,, she went ballistic threatening small claims court etc.. and finally gave me some god squad s**t about sinning
I mean FFS the bint had probably made a small fortune out of us being there and paying the full asking price.. you would think she could call a contractor in to fill the hole and paint it over
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| posted by Zebedee 55 days ago |
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Originally posted by Paps of Jura
Twonk.. liking that
BTW how's your property empire going ?? Any predictions for the latter half of the year ?
Very well thankyou Paps, you must be pyschic, just completing on an overseas property this week as it would happen !
I'm still bullish about HK (but not the 30-50% Investment Banks are touting), mainly due to the low supply issue and cheap HKD borrowing, but finding the right property is increasingly difficult, Wong Chuk Hang should be good area with the MTR SIL in future years......rents will almost definitely get worse between 2008-2010, so if you wanna stay in this town and have to pay your own rent, definitely should consider buying. I've a few friends that have taken Interest Only Mortgages now in HK, if you're not paying back the capital each month as such, repayments are pretty low in comparison to renting properties of same value.
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| posted by Paps of Jura 55 days ago |
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Which country ??
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| posted by Zebedee 55 days ago |
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My only advise with finishing a lease, get Solicitors involved from the start - even if it costs you a few hrs of their time. If you've been given notice or giving notice, insist on name of Landlord Solicitors at least three months before moving out....give the appearance you're not a soft touch. Bring a solicitor or property agent to the final inspection (in fact could be anyone), and try find out where the Landlord lives too and his bank - in the event legal papers are served. At all times give the appearance you could be a real pain to him if he doesn't play ball. Local landlords actually hate 'ma-fan' tenants, and usually want to move on and get their place rented out again with no hassle. Don't forget, going to the Small Claims Tribunal is really quite simple, but I would emphasize you need paperwork (lots of it) and some evidence !
I've had good experiences in this town, very much as Smog details above, but totally understand the majority of situations are probably less than ideal, particularly where individuals not companies, are involved.
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