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| posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 116 days ago |
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I have to say I think the Chinese authorities deserve enormous credit for the way they have mobilised the country and swung their resources into action. It's not too long ago that they would have been expected to behave like those Burmese twats.
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| posted by HKBloke 116 days ago |
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agreed.
I also think the scmp were wrong to put that photograph on the front page of their paper today. Far too distressing for the front page.
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| posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 116 days ago |
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Actually, just looked at it and I find it sad rather than sensationalist. If their intention was to get the attention of people who might be suffering from 'disaster fatigue', then I'd say they have succeeded.
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| posted by HKBloke 116 days ago |
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Perhaps inside - but i just feel putting a photograph of a pile of dead children on your front page is simply innapropriate.
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| posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 116 days ago |
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Not necessarily. Some of the most important images of our time have been the most shocking. The young girl alight with napalm in Vietnam, or the dying Ethiopian babies that prompted Live Aid for example. Images such as these are a lot different from (say) showing the bloody corpse of a Hong Kong suicide 'jumper', which to me serves no journalistic purpose whatsoever.
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| posted by bunthorne 116 days ago |
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What purpose is served by showing a pile of dead children? It's not like anything can be done to alter the situation. This is right up there with the suicide corpses - pointless, tasteless gutter journalism.
What if you were the parent of one of those kids? Surely they are entitled to some privacy in such a terrible loss. Ghoulish accident watching, that's all.
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| posted by Gimpmask 116 days ago |
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Well, if the picture helps to highlight the plight in Sichuan and encourages people to give aid then I think it justifies the lack of taste.
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| posted by The Cerne Abbas Giant 116 days ago |
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As I stated above, challenging the public's 'disaster fatigue' is one good reason. I for one was stirred into making donations to World Vision's China and Myanmar appeals based on what I have seen over the last couple of days.
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| posted by Lola 116 days ago (edited 116 days ago) |
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quote:
Originally posted by bunthorne
What purpose is served by showing a pile of dead children? It's not like anything can be done to alter the situation. This is right up there with the suicide corpses - pointless, tasteless gutter journalism.
What if you were the parent of one of those kids? Surely they are entitled to some privacy in such a terrible loss. Ghoulish accident watching, that's all.
What about this one?
The photographer won a Pulitzer Prize: Charles Porter IV, a free-lancer
For his haunting photographs, taken after the Oklahoma City bombing and distributed by the Associated Press, showing a one-year-old victim handed to and then cradled by a local fireman.
http://www.pulitzer.org/
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| posted by EmilyBronte 116 days ago |
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No need for dead children on the cover or the inside of any publication, totally unnecessary. If anyone needs to see death in order to make them aware of tragedy, then its a pretty sad state of affairs , i reckon.
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| posted by Lola 116 days ago |
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And this? Another Pulitzer Prize-winner.
South African Pulitzer Prize winner Kevin Carter took his own life months after winning the Pulitzer Prize for feature photography for a haunting Sudan famine picture. A freelance photographer for Reuters, Kevin dedicated his career to covering the ongoing conflict in his native South Africa.
The picture depicts a famine stricken child crawling toward a United Nations food camp, located a kilometer away. The vulture was waiting for the child to die, to be eaten. The picture has shocked the world. No one knows what had happened to the child, including Kevin himself, who left the place as soon as he took the photo.
Three months later, Kevin killed himself.
Notes found in kevin’s diary … "Dear God, I promise I will never waste my food no matter how bad it can taste and how full I may be. I pray that He will protect this little boy, guide and deliver him away from his misery. I pray that we will be more sensitive towards the world around us and not be blinded by our own selfish nature and interests. I hope this picture will always serve as a reminder to us that how fortunate we are and that we must never ever take things for granted."
http://www.fotowarung.com/archives/2006/07/31/kevin-carter-1961-1994-2/
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| posted by Lola 116 days ago |
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quote:
Originally posted by EmilyBronte
If anyone needs to see death in order to make them aware of tragedy, then its a pretty sad state of affairs , i reckon.
I think that's what Giant was saying about disaster fatigue, wasn't it? People can become inured to violence; same for death/disaster.
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| posted by The Crone 116 days ago |
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[quote]Originally posted by Lola
And this? Another Pulitzer Prize-winner.
I reckon this to be the most powerful picture I have ever seen. I would recommend that this be hanged in every school, church, community hall, anywhere where folks gather in the name of learning together or from each other.
Truly, sometimes we need a bit of awakening.
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| posted by bunthorne 116 days ago |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lola
What about this one?
The photographer won a Pulitzer Prize: Charles Porter IV, a free-lancer
For his haunting photographs, taken after the Oklahoma City bombing and distributed by the Associated Press, showing a one-year-old victim handed to and then cradled by a local fireman.
http://www.pulitzer.org/
Two differences.
The child is alive.
Compassion.
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| posted by EmilyBronte 116 days ago |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lola
quote:
Originally posted by EmilyBronte
If anyone needs to see death in order to make them aware of tragedy, then its a pretty sad state of affairs , i reckon.
I think that's what Giant was saying about disaster fatigue, wasn't it? People can become inured to violence; same for death/disaster.
As highlighted in your two picture posts, I think showing a dead child/person is not always justified in creating awareness. Neither of those pictures show death ( although one imminent), and they are still extremely powerful.
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| posted by bunthorne 116 days ago (edited 116 days ago) |
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quote:
Originally posted by The Crone
I reckon this to be the most powerful picture I have ever seen. I would recommend that this be hanged in every school, church, community hall, anywhere where folks gather in the name of learning together or from each other.
Truly, sometimes we need a bit of awakening.
I remember the outrage this caused - that a photographer was preoccupied with taking sensational pics when not a moment should have been lost in going to that child's aid. Can't you see how staged it is?? Could you have lined up a photo like that under those circumstances?? I really do have to question what makes these people tick.
I'm not disputing the horror of the time, just the exploitation of distress.
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| posted by Lola 116 days ago (edited 116 days ago) |
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quote:
Originally posted by bunthorne
Two differences.
The child is alive.
Compassion.
Barely; Baylee Almon, who had just turned one year old the day before, later died of her injuries.
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| posted by The Crone 116 days ago |
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I'm not disputing the horror of the time, just the exploitation of distress.[/quote]
He paid for his 'greed' with his life and with the disdain/anger/grief/disbelief/hate that was shown towards him at the time.
Are we finally learning?
At least some have, imho, at least some.
Let's move on and focus on how we can help make 'our' world a better place.
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| posted by bunthorne 116 days ago |
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It seems to be rather a strange position from which to run for the moral high ground.
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| posted by HKBloke 116 days ago |
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If the aim is to get over disaster fatique and maximise donations then surely it would be much much better to focus on pictures of the dreadful sitation being faced by the SURVIVORS of the event (and lets face it there are plentty of pictures available) after all those are the people that will bebefit from such donations, rather then fill your front page of pictures of those that have already died.
Lets face it - the reason the SCMP out that picture on it's front page was to sell more newspapers. The fact that the picture involves a number of dead children is inexcusable.
In my opinion the editor of the South China Morning Post should be assumed of himself and should seriously consider his position.
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