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so caffeine is now off the ioc drugs list and australian rules footballers are now confessing to using caffeine tablets to get an edge over their rivals...in fact, teams are privately endorsing the use of it within the club. is this sending out the wrong message to children? what other sports would be doing the same? soccer/football,
lawn bowls? ;-) lol
for me...i think caffeine in small amounts should be tolerated but then again i would love to see two olympic games, one for clean athletes and one for drugged up athletes.....just to see what the enhanced human can do. which one would win the tv ratings?
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| posted by Gum Tree 1187 days ago |
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Didn't that modern pentathlete - Alex someone - get banned for excess caffeine? I can't understand how it would help in a sword fight (I think that is when he failed the test). Wouldn't it make someone more jittery?
mmmmm as a mother of a so-called "elite" junior athlete, I found the word was coming differently from two angles: peers and some dodgy coaches who had a 'do anything to win' and the official sporting bodies who gave them lecture after lecture about the harm this stuff does to the human body.
But the absolute worse thing I knew of was a Chinese gymnastics coach at the Australian Institute of Sport. She insisted that these kids (12 - 15 year olds) dehydrate themselves - spas, limited fluids etc. She told them that water is 'fattening'. At least one gymnast that I know of had kidney failure.
And we only have to look at things like 'roid rage and the east german and chinese females who have had their reproductive ability stuffed up for life. Coaches have an inordinate amount of power over young athletes. So ... it maybe OK for post 25 year olds to make their own choices, but unfortunately most athletes are too young to think about being older and what effects this drug taking will have on them.
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| posted by npg 1187 days ago |
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some great points you have raised :-) first off the rank...the chinese gymnast coach. the reason he/she wanted to dehydrate the kids/athletes was for muscle definition. fact is asian people have less muscle definition than anglo people.....this is what they do in china for example to give "good image" at meets/games. this coach was given a little biology lesson and i would be very surprised if she kept doing this in australia.
you have also raised another issue that 'thorpie' and his coach have made public and that is the plight of female swimmers (girls/young women) that the rigorous training is stuffing up their menstral cycle and in turn stuffing up their reproductive abilities. so it is just not drugs alone causing damage, at least, in female athletes.
and there is the classic story of an aussie athlete how failed a drugs test (when being a probable medal winner) because he had a cappucino during a commonwealth games.
but now we have reports of 16yo's dropping caffeine tabs to play footy because their peers do it.
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| posted by Gum Tree 1187 days ago |
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Trouble is, there is a bit of a divide these days between athletes with brains and athletes without much. Sorry, but footballers tend to be in the latter group. So they need to be protected against themselves, especially since the mid to late teens is a time when they won't pay any attention to parents but give all to peers and coaches.
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| posted by npg 1187 days ago |
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mmmmmmmmmm i wouldn't go that far GT, you just have to look at sprinters for example to find a multitude of drug users. you are right though......teenagers are very inpressionable.
i once worked with a guy who competed on the tennis satelite circuit and his one brag to fame was defeating a young leyton hewitt...problem was though...young leyton's dad rough him up behind some sheds after the game because he lost! sometimes you get the feeling that leyton needs a big fat joint and a bob marley cd. lol
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| posted by minibusdriver 1187 days ago |
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i think they need to do more than regulate caffeine in aussie rules. start with the shorts first and then we can talk diet.
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| posted by Gum Tree 1187 days ago |
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Hey minibusdriver - isn't it the shorts that gets the audience in???? Does in my case. Though, those high marks over the backs of others turn me on a bit too. But, I did hear that the tightness of the shorts means the players become temporarily infertile for the game and after. Not that that would bother me, lol.
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| posted by sunwaterandsky 1187 days ago |
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Caffeine does help performance, but only if the right amount - just think of your worst red bull nightmare! I don't have issues with elite atheletes taking caffeine - it is low on the risk ratings, but I have issue with them making it public. That encourages younger athletes to follow their idols and take it.
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| posted by minibusdriver 1187 days ago |
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Gum Tree, I think I have an old pair somewhere in my closet... they might even be a bit mouldy.
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| posted by npg 1186 days ago |
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saw a great interview with an manager of an english football club....he was saying how there are about 48% women in the crowd now, and the english football league want to attract more women, so what happens...mens shorts get longer and longer. lol
while we are on uniforms....the aussie women's basketball league have given up the the body suits and gone back to shorts/singlet.
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| posted by Gum Tree 1186 days ago |
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I heard that the baggy shorts/baggy t-shirt thing was because the Brazilian womens basketball team were worried about the size of their butts in the body suit. Or was it the US team?
Excuse my ignorance, but why do men wear lycra shorts under their footy shorts? Is it to do with holding it all together? Looks pretty strange. They should just wear the lycra ones, *wicked grin*.
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| posted by sunwaterandsky 1186 days ago |
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I think they are trying to prevent chafing? the chub rub
I personally choose to cheer for the team with the tightest fitting uniforms - makes your male friends freak when you point it out.
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| posted by npg 1186 days ago |
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hahahahahaha....ummmm i can only guess about the lycra...it may well have something to do with keeping it "all together" may also have something to do with supporting/protecting their groin muscles?
maybe they just like the feel of lycra on skin? ;-)
so lycra shorts and guernseys too???? hahahaha
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| posted by Gum Tree 1186 days ago |
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Full body suit. That'll show the difference between rugby, ozzie rules and soccer players. Make it a more interesting show when they go "Up there Cazaly".
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| posted by Johny 1186 days ago |
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I'm not sure Matt Shirvingtons lycra running suit managed to 'keep it all in' too well. lol
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| posted by Gum Tree 1186 days ago |
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Aaaaahhhh remember it all to well. Luckily he was not a hurdler.
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| posted by npg 1186 days ago |
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full body suit and cod piece? or you want to go with the mens sprinting body suit? lol
must admit...i like those women's sprinters body suits :-p
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| posted by Gum Tree 1186 days ago |
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Sprinting suit, me thinks. If you spend all that time building the bod, why not flaunt it?
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| posted by npg 1186 days ago |
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sex sells! i was surprised the women went back to short/singlet. they did say it was more comfortable.
i suppose that's the difference from womens/mens sport...women like to watch mens sport but men aren't so interested in watching womens sport.
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| posted by Gum Tree 1186 days ago |
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OK - here is a plan. NATURAL body shape, ie no drugs, and you get to show it off in lycra. Use the drugs, you have to cover up with a burka (sp?).
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| posted by npg 1186 days ago |
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don't think my tummy would agree with lycra...may need the cod piece as well...ummmm that should read 'will need' :-p
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