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| posted by life 1167 days ago |
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So, the US Supreme Court has decided that companies which provide the means for illegal downloading can be held liable.
Can the long arm of the law stretch outside of the US?
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| posted by God de Vader 1167 days ago |
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well.....that means im making well use of my sleepless night....downloading quite a bit right now.......
the US is the law.....look --->>> Iraq....and others.....Buss gets loads of criticism in his country......seems all the protesting is finally working.....but it would be so lame from the US if they pull out now......oh my........we made a mess , lets leave now! yeehaa....yankeedooodle was here
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| posted by HKBloke 1167 days ago |
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But isn't there a chance that this could back-fire on the recording companies. People might start to take the view that as an individual it's 'safe' to download stuff because if anyone is going to get targetted it will be the companies that develop and distribute the software not them.
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| posted by jaykay 1167 days ago |
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I think they are actually going for the file sharing software companies, which might create some deep confusion. American law being what it is could leave this whole industry in somewhat of a quandry on what to do. File sharing software (we are told!) is to enable file sharing full stop, not to facilitate the swapping of music/films, etc - which is exactly why people download this software in the first place! If they are going to make judgement lets hope they make informed judgement not just the half-a*sed attempts that they have put in place in dealing with firms like Microsoft. Sorry Bill!
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| posted by carang 1167 days ago |
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i download all the time... but i download tv shows. nothing else. i figure what i'm doing is not stealing as eventually we get most of the stuff on tv here anyway. i just don't like to wait for 2 or 3 years to get stuff...
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| posted by ServerGuy 1167 days ago |
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You might only be downloading TV shows, but what you may be doing is the TV company out of future revenue. The reason behind this is because you will have watched the show before, so when it comes on TV you may not watch it again, so you will also miss the adverts they play during the show, thus sponsers and the like will not want to place adverts.
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| posted by Gum Tree 1167 days ago |
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But if the show is good enough, you will watch it again, won't you? That's why they can rerun Fawlty Towers ad infinitum and the Simpsons and Buffy. Maybe it will inspire them to produce quality shows instead of crappy cheap reality shows.
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| posted by ServerGuy 1167 days ago |
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Yes you may well what a show again. But to be honest most of the crap on TV these days I only watch once, and sometimes that is once to many.
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| posted by Gum Tree 1167 days ago |
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I am a bit concerned though. Child seems to be downloading every night - TV shows and movies mostly. I am wondering whether we will get a knock on the door. But these are old ones, not newly released ones - does that make a difference? And does it make a difference if they are for personal use only? I am a bit ignorant of all this stuff - only thing I worry about is the download limits and fortunately, we don't have one here.
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| posted by ServerGuy 1167 days ago |
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No I don't think it makes any difference if its old or new. At the end of the day your not paying for something which someone owns a copyright to. As for a knock at the door, I would be very surprised. They are looking more for the people who place the download (seeds) onto the web in the first place as they are making the whole thing possible. At the end of the day its like using a VCR, your breaking the law unless you have actually purchased the video your playing.
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| posted by Gum Tree 1167 days ago |
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My goodness it is hard to be moral these days. Have to say, I place the download issue well at the bottom of my list of "things I should be concerned about". But I no longer buy or use pirated dvd's, so that is a step up......
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| posted by ServerGuy 1167 days ago |
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I don't think its a major issue at the moment. Its more the big boys know they are losing some money and want to stop it before it is massive. A good example of this was the other day where Microsoft and the Indonesian government agreed that they would pay for their unlicensed software. The fee was US$1 per copy. In the end the government worked out they owed MS around US$5 million, so imagine if the real fees were paid how much MS has lost.
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| posted by Waterslang 1167 days ago |
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GT,
Q.What's the diff between illegal downloading and pirated DVD's?
A.Pirated DVD's are not causing probs for my PC!
I happen to know someone bringing in pirated ones y'day, like I brought in some cigs and booze "contrastuff". Bad we are!
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| posted by Gum Tree 1167 days ago |
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The difference is I used to buy the dvd's and now don't and child is the one doing the downloading and he is bigger than me, lol.
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| posted by npg 1167 days ago |
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well, all these films would be unknown to the chinese if they couldn't buy pirate dvd's. it's just not in the budget of most chinese to spend cash on legit' copies.
i remember an interview with quinton tarantino (spell) a couple years ago when he was in china.
he couldn't believe the selection of films on offer...many films that just aren't for retail in the states/west...especially old films. personally i love the the availability of films from all over the world in china.
also it seems like record companies dump cd's into the chinese market that aren't selling any more. in the past i have bought legit' cd's for the same price as pirate's from hawkers around shanghai and beijing. you can tell by the fact that the company drills a hole next to the centre hole in the cd.
what p**ses me right off is that the companies cry poor, but the fact is 99%+ of all cd's/dvd's i have bought, i just wouldn't have bought back in oz! in fact i think 100% of dvd's that i have bought i wouldn't have purchased in oz!
the same for those LV hand bags etc...my personal view is that the majority of people who buy those products do so because they could never afford or justify the expense of the real article!
the figures these companies banter around that they lose each year to pirates is just fantasy. it's money they would never have made in the first place!
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| posted by kamote 1167 days ago |
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if they sell it in a more affordable price, i would buy the product.
i want the product but i cant afford it... so i look somewhere else... they created their own problem!
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| posted by life 1167 days ago |
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NPG, you make a valid point. Who buys un-heard of movies by un-heard of actors, if the movie is not dirt cheap. The same goes with fake bags. These items go to a different clientele of people whom the industry is not losing money to anyway. In actuality, this mass form of thievery actually makes un-heard of actors heard of as well as directors. In the end you have people going to the movies to see things because they just can't wait, and then buying the movie if they liked it in the cinema.
However, the fact that VCR players and recorders where not deemed illegal as long as they were being used for personal entertainment should have applied to the downloading industry (imho). Besides what is the difference between taping a program and then sending it to your friends to watch since they missed it.
Instead of making the act illegal they should have passed on the costs to the internet providers and cable TV providers.
But no-one has answered my question. Can this verdict affect people outside of the US?
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