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posted by hongkonger 1165 days ago
The documentary (30th June 2005) following the lives of the PLA soliders moving to Hong Kong for the 97 handover was on the box late last night (didnt watch it all).

I did like the moral education session. The report stated that Hong Kong has, and always had, loose morals with pornographic materials abound, hence the soliders were given "education" to overcome the temptation.....

.....the immoral British were blamed for corrupting the barren rock inhabitants.....

Thought that was a bit OTT, even for the PLA, considering:

- Its own dodgy homeland activities;
- countless mainland ladies of the night;

But of course, I forgot, China doesn't have those sort of problems does she? [}:)]

where is that sarcastic icon :)

And talking about ladies of the night, how do the HK police only manage to catch the small fry and never seem to tackle the big fish....

It is easy to send a few hundred cops into MongKok at dawn and arrest hundreds of overstayers, but that is not going to help resolve the problem.


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posted by Gum Tree 1165 days ago
Haven't seen it but really agree we need both a sarcasm icon and an irony icon. How's about it bloke and server - know you have nothing to do (insert both sarcasm and irony icons here).

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posted by barbie 1165 days ago
There was a fascinating documentary I saw a few years back here on Pearl about the soldiers who stood ready in Shenzhen to come over the border at midnight.
They had been in training to do this for a few years and were a big secret tucked away up there. They were all recruited from farms and far flung places in China and told they had a glorious mission to fulfil.(They were virtually hick kids)
Then they were taken to Shenzhen in the dead of night and kept there for well over a year or so. They werent allowed out of the barracks for months on end and were taught to march, drill etc. Some of them broke down and cried and cried because they missed their parents so much, but they were given a good 'talking to' and made to continue on after being told they'd bring shame to their families if they went home. (They were all about 18/19)
They were given a few hundred Yuan and allowed to go buy clothes for their arrival into HK...and yes, they were made 'ready' for the obscene Sodom and Gomorrha (?) here.
By the time July 1 1997 came around they had been trained to stand still without moving a muscle for hours on end..which is what they did that night (I saw them on TV in Aus) they looked scary I thought back then, but having seen this documentary they were nothing but a bunch of mind washed kids virtually.

I wait for the day when schools have all the funding they need and the airforce has to have a cake stall to raise money for a new bomber.
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posted by barbie 1165 days ago
Actually, also, on the same vein....a bunch of previous NET teachers here during an induction course, were told that the HK education system (rote learning, no questioning) was a product of the British being here and not wanting Chinese people to 'think'...!
A little unfair I think!

I wait for the day when schools have all the funding they need and the airforce has to have a cake stall to raise money for a new bomber.
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posted by hongkonger 1165 days ago
quote:
Originally posted by barbie

There was a fascinating documentary I saw a few years back here on Pearl about the soldiers who stood ready in Shenzhen to come over the border at midnight.
They had been in training to do this for a few years and were a big secret tucked away up there. They were all recruited from farms and far flung places in China and told they had a glorious mission to fulfil.(They were virtually hick kids)
Then they were taken to Shenzhen in the dead of night and kept there for well over a year or so. They werent allowed out of the barracks for months on end and were taught to march, drill etc. Some of them broke down and cried and cried because they missed their parents so much, but they were given a good 'talking to' and made to continue on after being told they'd bring shame to their families if they went home. (They were all about 18/19)
They were given a few hundred Yuan and allowed to go buy clothes for their arrival into HK...and yes, they were made 'ready' for the obscene Sodom and Gomorrha (?) here.
By the time July 1 1997 came around they had been trained to stand still without moving a muscle for hours on end..which is what they did that night (I saw them on TV in Aus) they looked scary I thought back then, but having seen this documentary they were nothing but a bunch of mind washed kids virtually.



yup that is the programme.


We will consume 85 million barrels of oil today, what's going to be left for tomorrow?
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posted by HK Expert 1163 days ago
quote:
Originally posted by barbie

Actually, also, on the same vein....a bunch of previous NET teachers here during an induction course, were told that the HK education system (rote learning, no questioning) was a product of the British being here and not wanting Chinese people to 'think'...!
A little unfair I think!



So why does it still carry on in schools as part of the education system. They have had 8 Years to change it. But from what I know, this is the only method that most kids know because of the current system.

The thing is most civil servants in the government send theire kids to overseas schools, so I guess these kids when they return are the ones that do all the 'thinking'?


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posted by barbie 1163 days ago
HKExpert, until you've spent time in a HK school, you wouldn't believe such a system exists anywhere. It defies logic and flies in the face of any educational merit at all.
It exists, and continues to exist because it's self-perpetuating.
Change is the scariest of things, to parents and teachers.



I wait for the day when schools have all the funding they need and the airforce has to have a cake stall to raise money for a new bomber.
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posted by Gum Tree 1163 days ago
expert - not if they send them to the same Brit schools that started it in the first place, lol.

Rote learning??? If you are from the Chinese culture, the practice of rote learning characters is long entrenched. The "scholars" were those who knew the greatest number of characters - there is virtually no other way of learning them since there is no intrinsic logic to them. And so the system goes. Easy for the early 1900's style of rote learning, english etc education systems, to fit in with that. Unfortunately, a lot of systems/nations have moved on ... the HK system and the UK system hasn't as yet. One day.

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posted by barbie 1163 days ago
It's not just 'rote ;earning' it's a plethora of things in local schools.
The UK system is light years from the local HK schools.

I wait for the day when schools have all the funding they need and the airforce has to have a cake stall to raise money for a new bomber.
 
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